All airlines flying from Dallas Love Field (DAL) to Oakland (OAK).

Select flight date:
FLIGHT SCHEDULE
Direct Flights:
Mon,Thu,Fri 13:20 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 15:05 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 374 Non-stop Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets) 3:45 Effective 2026-04-09 through 2026-06-01
Sat 15:25 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 17:20 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 389 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:55 Valid until 2026-01-03
Sat 09:15 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 11:15 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 503 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Effective 2026-02-14 through 2026-02-28
Sun 19:00 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 20:45 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 579 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:45 Effective 2026-04-12 through 2026-05-17
Sun 19:00 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 20:45 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 579 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:45 Operates only on 2026-05-31
Sat 17:10 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 19:10 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 626 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Effective 2026-01-10 through 2026-02-07
Sun 21:35 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 23:10 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 843 Non-stop Boeing 737-800 (73H) 3:35 Effective 2026-06-07 through 2026-08-02
Sat 17:10 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 19:00 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 999 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:50 Effective 2026-04-11 through 2026-05-30
Tue,Wed 20:00 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 21:45 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 999 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:45 Effective 2026-04-07 through 2026-06-03
Tue,Wed 19:55 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 21:45 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 1076 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:50 Effective 2026-03-10 through 2026-04-01
Sat 19:35 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 21:35 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 1085 Non-stop Boeing 737-800 (73H) 4:00 Effective 2026-02-14 through 2026-02-28
Sat 18:00 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 19:35 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 1094 Non-stop Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets) 3:35 Effective 2026-06-06 through 2026-08-01
Sun 08:05 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 09:45 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 1268 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:40 Effective 2026-06-07 through 2026-08-02
Mon,Thu,Fri 08:50 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 10:30 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 1268 Non-stop Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets) 3:40 Effective 2026-06-04 through 2026-08-03
Sun 12:20 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 14:05 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 1285 Non-stop Boeing 737-800 (73H) 3:45 Effective 2026-04-12 through 2026-05-17
Sun 12:20 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 14:05 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 1285 Non-stop Boeing 737-800 (73H) 3:45 Operates only on 2026-05-31
Sun 10:40 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 12:25 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 1488 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:45 Operates only on 2026-05-24
Tue,Wed 18:40 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 20:15 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 1556 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:35 Effective 2026-06-09 through 2026-07-29
Wed,Thu 18:45 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 20:35 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2267 Non-stop Boeing 737-800 (73H) 3:50 Valid until 2026-01-01
Mon 20:55 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 22:45 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2267 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:50 Operates only on 2026-01-05
Tue,Wed 12:30 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 14:05 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2499 Non-stop Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets) 3:35 Effective 2026-08-04 through 2026-09-30
Sat 17:25 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 19:05 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2499 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:40 Effective 2026-08-08 through 2026-09-26
Mon,Thu,Fri 18:10 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 19:45 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2499 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:35 Effective 2026-08-06 through 2026-09-28
Sun 19:25 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 21:00 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2499 Non-stop Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets) 3:35 Effective 2026-08-09 through 2026-09-27
Mon,Thu,Fri 14:30 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 16:30 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2567 Non-stop Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets) 4:00 Effective 2026-03-05 through 2026-04-06
Sun 15:05 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 16:55 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2567 Non-stop Boeing 737-800 (73H) 3:50 Effective 2026-03-08 through 2026-04-05
Mon-Fri 09:15 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 11:15 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2597 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Effective 2026-01-06 through 2026-01-14
Tue-Fri,Sun 09:15 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 11:15 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2597 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Effective 2026-01-18 through 2026-01-23
Mon-Fri 09:15 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 11:15 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2597 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Effective 2026-01-26 through 2026-02-04
Tue,Wed,Sun 09:15 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 11:15 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2597 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Effective 2026-02-08 through 2026-02-11
Tue,Wed 09:15 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 11:15 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2597 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Effective 2026-02-18 through 2026-03-04
Thu,Fri,Sun 19:25 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 21:25 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2597 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Effective 2026-01-11 through 2026-01-16
Mon,Sun 19:25 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 21:25 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2597 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Effective 2026-01-19 through 2026-01-25
Thu,Fri,Sun 19:25 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 21:25 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2597 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Effective 2026-02-01 through 2026-02-06
Mon,Sun 19:25 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 21:25 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2597 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Effective 2026-02-09 through 2026-02-15
Mon,Tue,Thu 19:25 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 21:25 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2597 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Effective 2026-02-17 through 2026-02-23
Mon 19:25 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 21:25 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 2597 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 4:00 Operates only on 2026-03-02
Sat 18:30 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 20:20 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 3443 Non-stop Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets) 3:50 Effective 2026-03-07 through 2026-04-04
Sun 06:15 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 08:00 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 3487 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:45 Effective 2026-04-12 through 2026-05-17
Sun 06:15 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 08:00 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 3487 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:45 Operates only on 2026-05-31
Sat 21:35 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 23:25 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 3869 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:50 Valid until 2026-01-03
Mon,Tue,Fri,Sun 21:45 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 23:35 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 3869 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:50 Valid until 2026-01-04
Sun 19:10 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 20:55 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 3973 Non-stop Boeing 737-800 (73H) 3:45 Operates only on 2026-05-24
Mon,Thu,Fri 17:15 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 19:15 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 3996 Non-stop Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets) 4:00 Effective 2026-02-12 through 2026-02-16
Thu,Fri,Sun 17:15 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 19:15 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 3996 Non-stop Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets) 4:00 Effective 2026-02-20 through 2026-03-01
Sat 07:20 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 09:15 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 4655 Non-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 3:55 Valid until 2026-01-03
Non-Direct Flights:
Sun 09:05 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 13:45 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 120 1-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 6:40 Operates only on 2026-05-24
Wed,Thu 08:30 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 11:40 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 164 1-stop Boeing 737-700 (73W) 5:10 Valid until 2026-01-01
Sat 13:30 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 16:55 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 312 1-stop Boeing 737-800 (73H) 5:25 Effective 2026-01-10 through 2026-02-07
Sat 18:20 Dallas Love Field (DAL) 1 21:40 Oakland (OAK) 2
Southwest Airlines WN 435 1-stop Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8) 5:20 Effective 2026-02-14 through 2026-02-28
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All airlines flying from Dallas Love Field (DAL) to Oakland (OAK).
Select flight date:
FLIGHT SCHEDULE
Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-04-09 through 2026-06-01
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Duration: 3:45, non-stop
Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets)

Direct Flights:

Valid until 2026-01-03
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Duration: 3:55, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-02-14 through 2026-02-28
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-04-12 through 2026-05-17
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Duration: 3:45, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Operates only on 2026-05-31
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Duration: 3:45, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-01-10 through 2026-02-07
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-06-07 through 2026-08-02
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Duration: 3:35, non-stop
Boeing 737-800 (73H)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-04-11 through 2026-05-30
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Duration: 3:50, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-04-07 through 2026-06-03
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Duration: 3:45, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-03-10 through 2026-04-01
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Duration: 3:50, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-02-14 through 2026-02-28
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737-800 (73H)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-06-06 through 2026-08-01
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Duration: 3:35, non-stop
Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-06-07 through 2026-08-02
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Duration: 3:40, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-06-04 through 2026-08-03
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Duration: 3:40, non-stop
Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-04-12 through 2026-05-17
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Duration: 3:45, non-stop
Boeing 737-800 (73H)

Direct Flights:

Operates only on 2026-05-31
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Duration: 3:45, non-stop
Boeing 737-800 (73H)

Direct Flights:

Operates only on 2026-05-24
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Duration: 3:45, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-06-09 through 2026-07-29
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Duration: 3:35, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Valid until 2026-01-01
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Duration: 3:50, non-stop
Boeing 737-800 (73H)

Direct Flights:

Operates only on 2026-01-05
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Duration: 3:50, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-08-04 through 2026-09-30
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Duration: 3:35, non-stop
Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-08-08 through 2026-09-26
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Duration: 3:40, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-08-06 through 2026-09-28
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Duration: 3:35, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-08-09 through 2026-09-27
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Duration: 3:35, non-stop
Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-03-05 through 2026-04-06
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-03-08 through 2026-04-05
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Duration: 3:50, non-stop
Boeing 737-800 (73H)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-01-06 through 2026-01-14
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-01-18 through 2026-01-23
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-01-26 through 2026-02-04
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-02-08 through 2026-02-11
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-02-18 through 2026-03-04
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-01-11 through 2026-01-16
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-01-19 through 2026-01-25
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-02-01 through 2026-02-06
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-02-09 through 2026-02-15
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-02-17 through 2026-02-23
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Operates only on 2026-03-02
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-03-07 through 2026-04-04
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Duration: 3:50, non-stop
Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-04-12 through 2026-05-17
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Duration: 3:45, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Operates only on 2026-05-31
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Duration: 3:45, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Valid until 2026-01-03
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Duration: 3:50, non-stop
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Direct Flights:

Valid until 2026-01-04
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Duration: 3:50, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Direct Flights:

Operates only on 2026-05-24
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Duration: 3:45, non-stop
Boeing 737-800 (73H)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-02-12 through 2026-02-16
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets)

Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-02-20 through 2026-03-01
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Duration: 4:00, non-stop
Boeing 737-700 (Scimitar Winglets)

Direct Flights:

Valid until 2026-01-03
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Duration: 3:55, non-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Non-Direct Flights:

Operates only on 2026-05-24
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Duration: 6:40, 1-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)

Non-Direct Flights:

Valid until 2026-01-01
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Duration: 5:10, 1-stop
Boeing 737-700 (73W)

Non-Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-01-10 through 2026-02-07
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Duration: 5:25, 1-stop
Boeing 737-800 (73H)

Non-Direct Flights:

Effective 2026-02-14 through 2026-02-28
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Duration: 5:20, 1-stop
Boeing 737 MAX 8 (7M8)
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  • A domestic route departing from the Dallas Love Field airport (DAL) and arriving at Oakland airport (OAK).
  • The flight distance is 1464 miles, or 2356 km.
  • The timezone of the departure airport is UTC-6 , and the timezone of the arrival airport is UTC-8 . Current time at the point of departure is (loading...), and (loading...) at the point of arrival. There is a (loading...) hour time difference between the airports.
  • For direct flights, the flight time varies between 3:35 and 4:00.